I will add that there are a great number of honest and outstanding people past and present that were lawyers. To lump or include all persons in a personal hatred is not only wrong its unamerican.
I am adding the comment I wanted to send to the "911 AE", architects and engineers that investigated the 911 event and called it an "expert demolition job" whatever the "differences" there are that I may have with the "findings" of those 911 engineers and architects, being an "electrical engineer myself" I have to conclude that the "JOB WAS NOT ENTIRELY TRANSPARENT"!
Here are the things I found out, as I personally consulted with "MYSELF" and the "GODS WHO RULE OUR UNIVERSE":
1. There is the same conclusion I come to as the pamphlet I read which is that the 9/11 attacks could not have occurred without "high-level complicity" from "rogue elements" within the US government, as well as complicity from the hidden rogues within the governments of those we "call mistakenly our allies" in criminal activity!
Similar "false flag operations" have been used by powerful interests, among them the "KINGS OF PLANET EARTH" that have "committed fornication with babylon", I will explain that in an moment, to take a nation to war, including by the rogue government of the kingmen in our United States, according to recently declassified documents. The INVASION OF AFGHANISTAN was "predicted" by the negotiations that went on between the Taliban and the Bush administration through previous public officials who offered this "very compromising alternative" to the "taliban", you either "cooperate with us" in laying a gas or oil pipeline through Afghanistan, in which case you get the "GOLD CARPET" treatment, otherwise we will give you "carpet bombing"!
After the religion of Islam has been "attacked viciously by the British monarchy" in the book by MR RUSHDIE, called the "SATANIC VERSES" that is just a sequel to the Book by Henry Ford who "blasted the Jewish people" in a similar fashion, it is my conclusion and also the "conclusion of the kings of the Universe", that the "UNITED STATES OF AMERICA" is infiltrated by a "secretive order of vicious global kings" whose "ulimate goal" must be "WORLD CONTROL"!
THE BOOK, THE "INTERNATIONAL MASON, THE WORLD'S FOREMOST PROBLEM" will clearly describe the "nature of this global conspiracy of wicked kings", its "oaths, covenants of secrecy" and its Modus operandi as well as its "illustrious history"!
IT WILL SHOCK AND INSPIRE YOU, AT THE SAME TIME, since there is a "clear and unmistakebale block" the "life or MR JOSHUA BETHEL" has been "threatened more than once" because he is an "uncompromising defender of universal truth" as applicable to the global solutions that need to be found, therefore
PLEASE JOIN ME IN "ADVOCATING THE OVERTHROW OF THE EVIL KINGS" who have made this "horrible event of 911 possible" by
a) Antagonizing the leaders of Islam by publishing a book that is 'full of lies' and does not accurately portray the true nature of the islamic faith!
b) By swearing those to secrecy that may have actually piloted those planes so that they would not sqawk about it, before the mission went down, if indeed there were "planes" that did this inside job, so far I still have not seen a "single picture" of a plane hitting that building however since there are indeed people missing from those planes I must conclude that "someone did indeed die" in a plane during that event!
Therefore after all is said and done I must now order the "DEMOLITION" of the AASROF, similar to the way that the "building # 7" was taken down by a "VICIOUS ORDER OF KINGS" for there is
There is "one group of individuals" that "most definetly needs to be excluded" if we want a "more clean and honest government of by and for the people", I am "surprised" that you put my name in these posts, after all I did "give you a screen name" has it ever occurred to you that by so doing you might put me at risk?
Clearly this is a "public forum" and as such it might be read by many people!
Therefore here it is in your face! I have "studied extensively the secrets of the Novus Ordo Seclorum" as it calls itself and have come to the conclusion that the "underlying secret society" that "threatens to cut the throat of our constitutional system of government" is the "conspiracy of evil kings" known as the "AASROF", meaning the "ANCIENT SCOTTISH RITE OF FREEMASONRY", a book on this fraterntiy of kings is about to be printed, and it is written by the "INTERNATIONAL JEW" by name Joshua Bethel who is answering the "INTERNATIONAL MASON", who in his day was MR HENRY FORD SENIOR, a "block" has been "put on this book" by the KINGS OF PLANET EARTH! REMOVE IT, and find out for yourself who the "KINGS ARE" that still seek to "oppress the people of the United States" to this "VERY DAY"!
I was taught to pick your battles wisely, but not to be afraid to bait the trap. Sometimes, you can win a war by losing a battle. We believe GOOOH can invite whoever we choose, just as the two parties do. This will be a welcome debate.
Just finished about 2/3 of Tim's book (5/31/09) and joined here.
I could not agree more that lawyers and especially anyone ever associated with ACLU should be excluded from office holding at any level. I know quite a number of lawyers. Of those I know, there is not a single one who I would consider honest to the point of putting America ahead of his own success. There is not a single one I would consider to have the slightest amount of the humility required to serve the public in office. There is not a single one who will publicly criticize any sitting judge. They have developed a culture which precludes their honesty and humility. They should be universally excluded.
As is well documented in Tim's book, the ACLU is an organization dedicated to the overthrow of our constitutional government. It was once on the 'Attorney General's List' of subversive organizations. It should be treated even more severely today. Certainly nobody who has ever been a part of, or publicly supported, the ACLU should be allowed on the ballot.
All that said, we are missing some points here.
For example, even if Congress, or States, should pass laws excluding these individuals from running (never happen), it would be immediately overturned in Court. And that not without good reason. The basic problem here is the Constitution itself, which almost certainly prohibits such restrictions.
So any approach to this exclusion must not involve passing of any laws, regulations, etc. by States or by the Feds. To involve legislation would require a Constitutional ammendment.
So you must be envisioning a system where the GOOOH organization itself proclaims and maintains these restrictions. That is the only way such exclusions might conceivably work.
Then, of course, GOOOH itself would become a huge target of legal action by - naturally - the ACLU and other 'injured parties'. I doubt any organization like GOOOH could survive in such a climate, even though one might argue we are making private decisions, etc.
The problem would come in when GOOOH attempts to get certified for the ballot. So doing would undoubtedly expose us to vicious, widespread, well-funded, and to some extent justified, legal attack.
Nevertheless, I am solidly in favor of excluding - maybe deporting - these people. I think we may have to settle for something a little less formal and defined. Perhaps mounting large-scale 'conflict-of-interest' attacks on them in our groups - inviting them to leave.
The ACLU has to be eliminated, not just kept off the ballot. I'm not sure how to go about this, but I hope somebody else has some realistic, powerful ideas.
I will not run for office; too old (66), crotchety, unfriendly, etc. - unelectable.
John R. Chaffer / Bozeman, MT / 5/31/09
Keep up the good fight. We're gaining members daily, but recognize not many people participate in forums - it's just the way it is.
However, we are gaining new members daily, and will, with time, build the base of supporters we need to succeed.
The reason we got wooden arrows is completely due to how lawyers think. When the house voted down the bailout, the senate took a bill from January and passed it. The senate cannot propose new legislation; however, they can modify any legislation given to the senate for that year. Thus, to save time, they did not modify the pork. They just increased the public financing portion of the bill to meet the requested theft of tax payer money. Only a lawyer would do that.
When Americans realize that they do not have to pay taxes and act on it, we can change the system. One person cannot make a difference. It takes a large group. Taxes are illegal per our constitution, but everyone is too scared to not pay them. If every public company gets a bailout, why don't the tax payers? Why, because, then, the crooked politicians would be out of a fake job.
I have grown so tired of so many people being lazy and having no spine. People are so wrapped-up in their own lives. So much so, they are allowing this country to die by the hands of less than 1,000 people who think they are smarter than I.
Within all my posts, I have tried to be positive, without conspiracy theory. I now know, the theories are not conspiracy. I offer advice that everyone stock-up on supplies. We are within months of a total collapse. If more people understood this, we would have more action. Instead, we are left with people who like the notion of GOOOH, but do nothing to help promote it.
I was one of many vocal people in favor of GOOOH before the election. Now, I am the basically the only person out of the vocal group still willing to fight. If you are here and reading my post, don't be one of the self gratification people. Nothing comes easy in life unless you are rich enough to buy a politician/lawyer.
One of the reasons not to allow Lawyers goes directly to integrity. I dare you to ask 100 lawyers a yes or no question. Now time the response. It will be measured in minutes or at least have a disclaimer equal to or longer than the answer. Our current situation reminds me of an old John Wayne movie where he is running for Sheriff and says "it seems we need a sheriff that is better at smelling than spelling" ... he was running against a lawyer.We need people that can smell out a rat maybe not spell rat.
How can we as a country that is "well represented" pass this bailout? I mean 6 mil for the wooden arrow industry????? Did we bail out the milk man or the ice man? NO!!!! They went out of business as we as a country progressed and they hot jobs in another industry. We are rewarding these companies for bad behavior and bad decisions. Did we bailout the vinal record business when cassettes and then cd's came along. Are those people in soup kitchens? NO!!! They changed they way they do business and survived or sold out or merged.... C'MON we are better than this.
How can we as a country that is "well represented" pass this bailout? I mean 6 mil for the wooden arrow industry????? Did we bail out the milk man or the ice man? NO!!!! They went out of business as we as a country progressed and they hot jobs in another industry. We are rewarding these companies for bad behavior and bad decisions. Did we bailout the vinal record business when cassettes and then cd's came along. Are those people in soup kitchens? NO!!! They changed they way they do business and survived or sold out or merged.... C'MON we are
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